Mbeki said “the victory of the national liberation struggle did not result in the departure of the foreign ruling class." In other words “the struggle is not complete till we’ve finally rid ourselves of the whites (foreign ruling class)”.
But I would not describe the Afro-Nazi Criminals present tactics as genocide (at least not yet) but rather as “quiet ethnic cleansing” facilitated by a climate of “anarcho-tyranny”. They actually do not want us to leave too quickly – or whilst we still possess some wealth they can steal – for their intention is, as always, to have their cake and eat it. To “punish” – through crime and pauperization - as many of us as possible whilst simultaneously whittling our numbers down to a level at which point the genocide option will look increasingly attractive to them. The big question is – what residual number of whites will they consider a suitably lower level for them to openly enact a “final solution”?
Consider Rhodesia - at its peak in the mid-70’s whites numbered about 250,000, but two-thirds left within the first few years of black rule. Unlike the backs-to-the-wall situation SA whites now find themselves in, Rhodies were lucky to have a friendly white-ruled country just a car drive away. So, after just a few years of black rule, whites (never more than 5% of the total) were reduced to less than 1% of Zim’s population. Even so it was many years before Mugarbage gathered the “courage” to finally address his “white problem”, although rumour has it that he had planned to act earlier (around 1990), but the ANC begged him to wait till after they had consolidated power. (thus explaining Mbeki’s “quiet diplomacy”).
The existing ANC programme of rampant racial discrimination, demonisation, and indirectly sponsored violence has reduced SA’s whites from about 5.2m in 1994 to maybe 4.2m in 2008 (about 14% a decade). SA whites not having the luxury of “a friendly country just down the road”, and as half of those who can leave easily have probably already done so, it will take something VERY BIG to reduce the white pop’n down to 1%. And even if it were to happen, there would still be at least 500,000. Therefore, if they intend to maintain a white attrition rate of 14% per decade, let alone increase the rate, the ANC will have to step up their hate campaigns substantially.
Assuming an attrition rate of 14% a decade, the future white pop’n can be extrapolated as…
2008 – 4.20 m (estimate)
2018 – 3.61 million
2028 – 3.10 m
2038 – 2.67 m
If we assume the black population (excl coloured and Indian “honorary blacks”) to be 40 million now, it may take 20 years before whites are reduced to the 5% of Rhodesia’s peak, even with a continuing huge influx of illegal blacks.
Remember that in the main cities and other parts of the country where they are concentrated, whites are “only” outnumbered about 5 to 1 or less and, unless armed with AK’s, cowardly blacks will not have the “courage” to openly attack us with less than 20 to 1 odds. And yet I also cannot see them having the patience to wait more than another decade for the final “re-distribution” of whites “ill-gotten apartheid gains”. South Africa being such a large country I also don’t believe they will be able to plan, let alone enact and co-ordinate a “spontaneous” national uprising.
Therefore, the most likely scenario is that, sometime before 2020, the relentless demands of the majority and a massive (possibly worldwide) financial crisis plus, will force the ANC to play its dirty hand, probably through some radical surrogates like the youth league.
In localized rural areas the black uprising may well take the form of a Rwandan-style “panga pogrom”, but in the cities for such an uprising to be successful a large number of blacks would need to be armed with AK’s, and it is very unlikely that this can be done without giving ample warning to the intended victims.
If, or rather when, something like this happens, it will prove be a blessing in disguise, as even the liberals must then finally awake from their mandelatopian dreams and realize their only hope is to carve out their own enclaves from the ruins of the rainbow nation.
The bottom line is - I believe the blacks greed and impatience will bring this scenario about sooner rather than later.
But I would not describe the Afro-Nazi Criminals present tactics as genocide (at least not yet) but rather as “quiet ethnic cleansing” facilitated by a climate of “anarcho-tyranny”. They actually do not want us to leave too quickly – or whilst we still possess some wealth they can steal – for their intention is, as always, to have their cake and eat it. To “punish” – through crime and pauperization - as many of us as possible whilst simultaneously whittling our numbers down to a level at which point the genocide option will look increasingly attractive to them. The big question is – what residual number of whites will they consider a suitably lower level for them to openly enact a “final solution”?
Consider Rhodesia - at its peak in the mid-70’s whites numbered about 250,000, but two-thirds left within the first few years of black rule. Unlike the backs-to-the-wall situation SA whites now find themselves in, Rhodies were lucky to have a friendly white-ruled country just a car drive away. So, after just a few years of black rule, whites (never more than 5% of the total) were reduced to less than 1% of Zim’s population. Even so it was many years before Mugarbage gathered the “courage” to finally address his “white problem”, although rumour has it that he had planned to act earlier (around 1990), but the ANC begged him to wait till after they had consolidated power. (thus explaining Mbeki’s “quiet diplomacy”).
The existing ANC programme of rampant racial discrimination, demonisation, and indirectly sponsored violence has reduced SA’s whites from about 5.2m in 1994 to maybe 4.2m in 2008 (about 14% a decade). SA whites not having the luxury of “a friendly country just down the road”, and as half of those who can leave easily have probably already done so, it will take something VERY BIG to reduce the white pop’n down to 1%. And even if it were to happen, there would still be at least 500,000. Therefore, if they intend to maintain a white attrition rate of 14% per decade, let alone increase the rate, the ANC will have to step up their hate campaigns substantially.
Assuming an attrition rate of 14% a decade, the future white pop’n can be extrapolated as…
2008 – 4.20 m (estimate)
2018 – 3.61 million
2028 – 3.10 m
2038 – 2.67 m
If we assume the black population (excl coloured and Indian “honorary blacks”) to be 40 million now, it may take 20 years before whites are reduced to the 5% of Rhodesia’s peak, even with a continuing huge influx of illegal blacks.
Remember that in the main cities and other parts of the country where they are concentrated, whites are “only” outnumbered about 5 to 1 or less and, unless armed with AK’s, cowardly blacks will not have the “courage” to openly attack us with less than 20 to 1 odds. And yet I also cannot see them having the patience to wait more than another decade for the final “re-distribution” of whites “ill-gotten apartheid gains”. South Africa being such a large country I also don’t believe they will be able to plan, let alone enact and co-ordinate a “spontaneous” national uprising.
Therefore, the most likely scenario is that, sometime before 2020, the relentless demands of the majority and a massive (possibly worldwide) financial crisis plus, will force the ANC to play its dirty hand, probably through some radical surrogates like the youth league.
In localized rural areas the black uprising may well take the form of a Rwandan-style “panga pogrom”, but in the cities for such an uprising to be successful a large number of blacks would need to be armed with AK’s, and it is very unlikely that this can be done without giving ample warning to the intended victims.
If, or rather when, something like this happens, it will prove be a blessing in disguise, as even the liberals must then finally awake from their mandelatopian dreams and realize their only hope is to carve out their own enclaves from the ruins of the rainbow nation.
The bottom line is - I believe the blacks greed and impatience will bring this scenario about sooner rather than later.
6 comments:
how do you reconcile this with Van Rensburg's prophesies? Or do you dismiss Van Rensburg as a loon while lauding yourself as something better at predictions, logical or otherwise? (just asking)
Van Rensburg (or his interpreters) claim that the urban attacks will come without warning and this will occur at the time of Russia losing a major war.
The Bible shows that Russia gets her ass kicked by God himself during the great tribulation period when she wages war against Israel.
Therefore, it stands to reason that a race war will break out in SA after all the Christians have gone "bye bye" rapture style.
Besides, war will come one way or another. 1 of the 4 horsemen of the Apocolypse is the horseman of war where a world wide war breaks out which leads to a world wide food shortage, (horseman number 2)
No nation will be spared
With our current food shortages, we wont have world wide reserves to ride out this shortage. The rich however will ride out the food shortage according to Revelations
If war does break out here before then, it will simply be the opening skirmishes of the real deal.
Van Rensburg claimed that this race war will be the last and final and most brutal battle the boers face. Thats another reason why i believe it will only happen during the 7 years. If UHURU came before then, it technically is not a "war of short duration" as claimed by Van Rensburg.
When the fruitcakes all claim that the christians were abducted by aliens, start crapping yourself.
Very interesting post and comment.
I was wondering when this subject matter would again begin to surface and be discussed. I know that up until now most participants have dismissed the whole ‘Siener thing’ as nothing more than old wives “bang maak praatjies” and misguided Boere folklore.
It indeed appears as if the post very neatly, yet adroitly sidles up to the Siener prediction without going so far as to actually being associated with it. Ironically, many of the Posts and comments, particularly on SAS, tend to neatly sidestep the very same controversial belief, whilst simultaneously, indirectly referring to it- direly warning of the impending doom about to befall White South Africa.
A case of selective indoctrination I suppose. I will secretly believe obscure theory as long as it fits my agenda, but God forbid that I be accused of adopting it. But if it happens- I told you so…
Whilst I myself am dubious as to the merits of the ‘Siener vision’ interpretations, I would not be fool enough to throw them away entirely. No sense in wasting a good warning, and nothing to lose in being vigilant. Especially when so much of it appears to be playing itself out right in front of our faces.
The post suggests some very interesting and provocative points. The part that lept out at me was the comment on the deal the ANC made with Mugabe to postpone his land grab. While this may or may not be proven, it certainly makes sense. What right minded, pre ‘94 South African electorate, (even liberal?), would have supported negotiated settlement and an election, had Mugabe embarked on his land grab prior to the 1990’s?
For a conspiracist this is manna from heaven. For a realist, it makes a lot of sense. I cannot imagine that this plan only appeared on Mugabe’s agenda 10 years later. Nah! Been in Africa too long to buy that one!
What is disturbing about the agenda of Mbeki and Mugabe, is the persistent regularity of similarity. Not only in terms of their own respective proximity, but also with that of the rest of Africa. Although the rest of Africa never had as many white people to get rid of as the two Southern regimes, the agenda remained the same. The rallying cry for liberation and the resultant insurrection was always ‘get rid of the colonial oppressors!’
Translate that to “white people”, or as Mbeki so diplomatically puts it: “…the foreign ruling class.”
The reason why this effort to rid Africa of its white population needed to be so significant still eludes me. I have moved past the theory that the shadow hand wanted our minerals. They have those now, more easily than with the white governments. Perhaps therein lies part of the answer. And this is alluded to in the Siener prophecies- once again providing food for thought and relegating my skepticism to somewhat shaky ground.
No country, let alone African country, could ever be permitted to maintain it’s existence as a soundly run, Christian, Nationalist and independent, sovereign entity.
The world is one, after all, and very definitely secular.
As long as there is even the smallest threat of a white uprising and establishment of the white identity and resultant stability, white people will remain the target of the paranoid black rulers, indoctrinated as they are by their Western, and now it appears- Eastern as well, masters. Indoctrinated, because none of them would ever have dreamed up such a complex plan by themselves. They are no more than stooges, albeit dangerous stooges.
The world displays, subtly, yet perceptibly, a collective indifference to Africa. Of course, they pay lip service to that which they are supposed to be concerned about. But, what harm would it do to the planet if Africa descended into a pit of anarchy and its inhabitants were to turn on themselves. You see, this would not happen in a white run African country. Not spontaneously anyway. Not without the proper agitation. And, a well run, Calvinistic, altruistic white nation that takes care of its ‘indigenous’ population, could never be tolerated.
The world is overpopulated. You do not need a conspiracy theorist to tell you his version of the ‘global plan’. Even so, if there was no agenda to rid the world of two thirds of it’s population, any sane politician- politically correct rhetoric aside, would breathe a disguised sigh of relief if the world were depopulated, even if only a little. Expendable Africans, even better. And as for the white folks in Africa, caught up in this mess? Collateral damage. Besides, they are mostly Christians, and Christians are notoriously meddlesome good folk who try to save lives and uplift their citizens.
Will all this break out soon? Before the “aliens” abduct the 100 or so decent Rapturous Christians left on this planet.
Refer Siener one more time.
“At the death of a great black statesman…to lie in state for weeks…the world will parade past his casket…etc.”
This is a stand-alone prophecy. Even if we were to ignore every other as being too bizarre for words, this one will happen. When Mandela lies on Kerk Plein, South Africa, Africa and the world will mourn.
The stage will be set for a blow out the likes of which we in SA have never seen.
Even if it was not up to the whim of a higher hand or fate, to be predicted.
Even if only attributed to the unbridled and unrestrainable Ork mentality of the masses straining at the leash of unfulfilled expectation, mixed liberally with irrational grief and mob sentiment, what would it take to turn this into a self fulfilling prophecy?
Every black ANCYL who ever had a reason to hate a white man will have the catalyst to avenge their fallen hero. Black grief and the impending psychological upsweep know no logic.
Our ‘World Elder’ has at best, 10 years left- at a stretch. Besides, what would it take to get some misguided Skielik sniper to take him out? Some white dude on a mission. What better way to incite the flames of hatred for whitey?
The consistency with which these puzzle pieces so insistently fall into place has long ago eroded my skepticism. I am beyond the luxuries of cynicism and disbelief. Now that anything that could be true most probably is, and the world has undoubtedly gone mad, I no longer hope for the best. I now only expect the worst.
@ anon 1
Although I do not give much credence to the convoluted prophesies of diviners (eg, Nostradamus) I had no intention to denigrate or second-guess Van Rensburg. From the little I know of him his prophecies (if truly recorded) they are certainly intriguing and, in light of recent events, ring uncannily true.
I was merely trying to analyse this situation from the rational viewpoint of demography.
@ anon 2
Thankyou for your lengthy but elegant and excellent response. I pretty well agree with everyhting you said so I'm sorry I can't come up right now with an appropriate response, so please give me a little time to think.
It seems that SA is following in the footsteps of Haiti. About 200 years ago the black Haitians rose up to overthrow their French masters and in the process killed every White person on their half of Hispaniola. 200+ years later Haiti is the most backward country in the Western Hemisphere, with the majority of its' inhabitants practicing voodoo. The other half of Hispaniola is occupied by the Dominican Republic, which although majority Black didn't have the uprising that Haiti did.
BTW, have you seen 2001: A Space Odyssey?
Can you imagine the advanced races leaving Earth while the niggers stay behind? Watching the boons in the opening scene discovering how to use tools for the first time reminds me of the pictures I see online from Africa.
Have you ever had the same thought watching that movie?
According to my information, the DR is about 30% black, 60% mixed (mulatto/mestizo), and maybe 10% of mostly white genetic origin.
This is very different from Haiti, which is 90% pure Africoon nigger and 10% mulatto. No prizes for guessing which of the two inferior racial groups dominates the economy.
Although no shining example of nationhood, comapared to Haiti DR is a paradise. DR gets huge numbers of overseas tourists, whereas Haiti gets NONE.
Actually thats not quite true, because a few cruise ships visit Haiti, but they dont go to any cities, but to a heavily-guarded artficial tourist enclave that is completely closed-off to the predatory monkeys.
@ BE: Great post old chap, would like to pilfer it for WSAS publication if you don't mind?
Cheers
UG
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